Shooting down of Ukrainian jet
Here is what I believe happened:
Two minutes after take off, the transponder, communications, and lights on the aircraft were shut off, most likely via remote.
It flew in this hacked configuration for approximately 4 minutes and 30 seconds before, in error, Iranian ground forces mistook it for a cruise missile and shot it down, with Iran’s top nuclear physicists aboard. Iran was expecting a war to break out, so the plane was sent out during a no fly order to get the most important people (and their families) out of Iran.
The only question in this story now is who interfered with communications between the airport, the military, and the pilots, who went dark for a considerable length of time before the missiles were launched. Approximately 1 minute after the first missile was launched, a second one was launched though the first one probably would have downed the plane despite it not being on fire. Eight minutes after take off, it crashed.
My guess is Israel’s Mossad is the one that hacked the plane and shut the transponder, lights and radios off to force it to fly completely dark, the way a cruise missile would. Israelis are the only ones celebrating.
As corrupt as Ukraine is, Iran SHOULD NOT turn over the black boxes until they have at least copied what is on the cockpit voice recorder. If whatever is reported to have come off that voice recorder does not mimic what I just said above, the wrong people will have “analyzed it”, you know, like how accurately American votes get counted.
Pat, assuming your account is true, why not consider the CIA for possible involvement? Interesting that the Chicago Tribune makes no mention of the Iranian nuclear scientists aboard or the ‘shut down’ of the plane’s electronics prior to crashing. Sure, Israel would be glad to have these scientists eliminated, but it’s a far cry to say that would have given them motivation to carry this out. Israel has no record of targeting civilians. Civilians are sometimes killed while being used as hostages to deter attacks on terrorist insurgents. Let’s just say the Iranians are trigger happy as were the Russian officers that took down the civilian plane in Ukraine with a missile.
Sherwin- I did consider the CIA as a possibility but only briefly. For the most part, that agency does not have “boots on the ground” since they had been crippled in that capability going all the way back to POTUS Bush and POTUS Obama. Our capabilities have relied on techie weapons and our Israeli allies have been the primary source of “shared” intelligence. Going back to the elimination of Soleimani, there are rumblings that part of the reason that our generals looked so uncomfortable during POTUS Trump’s speech after the action was that because of a story that was hatched, saying Iran was about to launch a nuclear attack god knows where and that Israel was the one that fed Trump the false intelligence that was used as a reason to do it. There is another story line that Trump got duped into believing another attack on the embassy was being staged. I find the idea of Trump getting hoaxed to be not only possible, but highly probable. But with the choke hold the Deep State holds on everything, we won’t get anything solid on this and I doubt Trump would tweet that Israel falsified intelligence because he either feels threatened or is still highly deluded with regard to Israel. Make no mistake, Israel’s prime concern is Israel, (as well it should be). If their concerns coincide with those of the United States, so much the better. If not, being rightfully concerned with their own goals, they would feel no compunction about throwing US under the bus.
The bottom line is that the loss of the nuclear scientists, (by the way, it should not be surprising that the Tribune didn’t report on that, although there was some mention regarding those who were Canadian), hurt the Iranians, so it was not in their best interest to eliminate them. The Deep State actors benefited from the deaths of the Bursma personnel who were killed, (especially with the flap over the Biden Son and the Pelosi son and the Kerry son getting “consultant” money from them. Weakening if Iran is of greatest benefit to Israel. I remind you of the principle of Occam’s Razor, the simplest answer is most likely the truthful one.